Mengeite is a rare barium magnesium manganese phosphate that forms dark orange-red masses. It occurs in a heavily brecciated hydrothermal vein. It was first described from the Spring Creek copper mine, South Flinders Range, South Australia, Australia.

Hardness

7.5

Mohs

Luster

Vitreous

Transparency

Translucent

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Mengeite

Hardness: 7.5
Luster: Vitreous
Transparency: Translucent

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Is this mengeite?

4-step field check

Run through these checks against the specimen in your hand. The more boxes tick, the more confident the ID.

1
Test the hardness
Try to scratch mengeite with a known reference. Mengeite sits at Mohs 7.5, softer than the next harder reference, harder than the previous one.
2
Read the luster
Hold the specimen under a strong light. Luster: vitreous.
3
Match the color range
Compare against the expected color range: dark orange-red.
4
Look at form & habit
Crystal system: triclinic. Typical habit: masses.

Often confused with

Mengeite vs. its common look-alikes, and how to tell them apart in the field.

Often found alongside mengeite

Minerals reported to co-occur with mengeite. Spotting these in float or country rock is a strong cue you are in the right ground.

All properties

Chemical formula: Ba(Mg,Mn²⁺)Mn³⁺₄(PO₄)₄(OH)₄·4H₂O
Mohs hardness: 7.5
Density: 3.40 g/cm³
Colors: Dark orange-red
Luster: Vitreous
Transparency: Translucent
Crystal system: Triclinic
Crystal habit: Masses
Rarity: Rare
Uses: Collector
Host rock: metamorphic rocks

Where rockhounds find mengeite

Classic worldwide localities

Spring Creek copper mine, 10 km south of Wilmington, South Australia, Australia

Field-hunting tip

Where it forms: metamorphic rocks. If you start seeing sapphirine, kornerupine, phlogopite in float, you are in the right ground. Typical habit: masses. Train your eye for that shape before scanning the outcrop.

Common questions

How do you identify mengeite?+

Mohs hardness is 7.5. Luster: vitreous. Common colors include dark orange-red.

Where is mengeite found?+

Notable localities include Spring Creek copper mine, 10 km south of Wilmington, South Australia, Australia.

What rocks look like mengeite?+

Mengeite is most often confused with Sapphirine, Kornerupine. A quick hardness test and a streak check separate the look-alikes faster than color alone.

What minerals are found with mengeite?+

Mengeite commonly co-occurs with Sapphirine, Kornerupine, Phlogopite, Spinel. Spotting any of these in float or country rock is a useful trip signal.

What kind of rock does mengeite form in?+

Where it forms: metamorphic rocks. Working float back to the host body is the standard way to chase a fresh occurrence.

What is mengeite used for?+

Mengeite is used in collector.

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